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Connections between Catcher and the Rye and song lyrics Belle42, Yippyeiyo, Lihsapen, picassomoon

Catcher in the Rye by Guns & Roses

When all is said and done
We’re not the only ones
Who look at life this way
That’s what the old folks say
But every time I’d see them
Makes me wish I had a gun

If I thought that I was crazy
Well I guess I’d have more fun
Guess I’d have more fun

the Catcher in the Rye again
won’t let ya get away from his gun
It’s just another day like today

You decide
If I don’t have to
Then they’ll find
And I won’t ask you
At anytime
Or long thereafter
If it’s cold outside
I’ll be wrapped up in
into me

(Solo)

the Catcher in the Rye again
won’t let ya get away from his gun
It’s just another day like today

When all is said and done
We’re not the only ones
Who look at life this way
That’s what the young folks say
As if they’d ever change
That’s not whom I to say
But every time I’d see them
Makes me wish I had a gun
If I thought that I was crazy
Well I guess I’d have more fun
It’s what used to be’s not there for me
And ought to find someone that belongs insane like I do

Oh no
Not at all (repeat)

On an ordinary day
Not in an ordinary way
All at once the song I heard
No longer wouldn’t play for anybody
Or anyone
That needed comfort from somebody
Needed comfort from someone who cared
To be
Not like you
And Unlike me
And then then voices ran away
From me
So now you set the wheels in motion
It Haunts our memories
You were the instrument
You were the one
How a body tipped a bottle
And Gave that boy a gun
You Took our innocence
Beyond our scabs
Sometimes the only thing
You got at all
When no one else is there

Analysis by Belle42

There are numerous connections between the novel Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger and the song “Catcher in the Rye” by Guns and Roses which can explain how the book has inspired the song. In the first verse of the song, the artist is describing the character in the song as discontent towards elderly people. The character takes the advice from his elders, however, he chooses not to follow their suggestions. This part of the song relates to the opening chapter of the novel when Holden Caulfield visits his history teacher Old Spencer. When Holden sees him, he only notices his teacher’s bumpy chest and his scrawny legs. The advice that Old Spencer is giving to Holden at the time seems trivial to the descriptions that Holden is giving. Also, in the song there are many references to the usage of guns. For the character in the book, a gun will help them escape their problems and aggravation. Throughout the book Holden uses the phrases “it kills me,” and he also contemplates suicide. These negative thoughts that Holden has are in response to behaviors and actions that Holden disapproves of. I think that lyrics portray many important themes in the novel, but if I could make any additions or modifications to the song, I would include words such as “moron” and “goddamnit”, and I would demonstrate the deliberations that Holden has with himself. This could be illustrated by adding words like “never mind” or “maybe”. Although there are changes that could be made to this song, I think that Guns & Roses was successful in creating a song based on the novel Catcher in the Rye.

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Assigned: Which Character are You? (ilikebutterflies, babiiecheerxo, wheelsuck, frenchman)

Who are YOU?

Can you relate to any of the following characters from various classic pieces of literature?

Holden Caulfield- from Salinger’s A Catcher in the Rye,

Siddhartha from Hesse’s Siddhartha,

Nora from Ibsen’s play A Doll’s House

AND

Meursault from Camus’ The Stranger

 

Take our Quiz to find out!

1. What is your favorite color?

A) Blue

B) White

C) Red

D) Black

 

Answers:

A) Holden – Blue – depression

B) Siddhartha – White – reverence, purity, simplicity

C) Nora – Red – excitement, energy, speed, strength, danger, passion, and aggression.

D) Black – expresses the depths of the unknown, mystery, fear, a lack of color, the primordial void, and emptiness

 

2. What is the most important thing in your life?

A) Having fun

B) Helping others

C) Being able to express your emotions

D) Your boyfriend / girlfriend

 

3. What is your motivation in life?

A) You have little motivation

B) Finding yourself

C) Bettering your self and your current position

D) Going by the flow

 

 

4. What is your dream job?

A) Don’t want to grow up, want to be a kid forever

B) To live off of nature

C) To be a successful doctor or lawyer

D) Don’t care

 

5. How do you view school?

A) An annoyance

B) A part of life one must go through

C) A privilege to expand one’s knowledge

D) Societies way to form you the way that it wants

 

6. How do you view your future?

A) Don’t really think about it

B) A long journey

C) Full of opportunities

D) Have no future

 

7. What is your favorite TV show?

A) Don’t watch TV

B) American Idol or Biggest Loser

C) Ugly Betty

D) The Office

 

8. Which trait do you dislike the most in a person?

A) Stupidity

B) Narrow – mindedness

C) A feeling of superiority

D) Motivation

 

9. What do you like to do in your free time?

A) Read

B) Volunteer

C) To make money / work

D) Be outside

 

10. Which trait do you admire most in a person?

A) Empathy

B) Individualism

C) Strength / determination

D) Straightforwardness

 

What are the results of your Quiz?

If you got Mostly A’s:

Congratulations! You are most similar to Holden from The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger.

You feel that nobody understands you and you long for a close relationship in which you will be able to share you feelings. You enjoy the age that you are and wish that you could remain this way forever. You fear change and despise phoniness. You have trouble fitting into a world so focused on the media and superficial things. You have a gift at being able to care for others and are a very giving person.

 

If you got Mostly B’s:

Congratulations! You are most similar to Siddhartha from Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse.

You believe in individualism and despise people that conform to fit into society. You try to always do what is right, even if it means self sacrifice. People find it easy to come to you with their problems and when they are looking for guidance. You are against most wars and fights, believing that there is a peaceful way to solve every altercation. You love to spend time outside and really connect with nature. Your calm nature makes you approachable and your desire to learn leads to great success.

 

If you got Mostly C’s:

Congratulations! You are most similar to Nora from A Doll’s House by Henrik Ibsen.

You are an independent thinker who is strongly supports his values. You will stand up for what you think is right, which sometimes might hurt you because you seldom think of the consequences. There are times when you are timid, and let other people control you, but for the most part, you know exactly who you are. You have great motivation and determination. You strive to always to better.

 

If you got Mostly D’s:

Congratulations! You are most similar to Meursault from The Stranger by Albert Camus.

You feel like you do not have a place in society and that you are an outcast. You have your group of friends, but they do not always understand you and are not that close. You find yourself not caring about where your life will take you or where you will be tomorrow. You try to feel pain, happiness, and other simple emotions, but it is hard for you to feel anything. You are just living life, coasting by, and let whatever happens happen.

 

Now here are a few songs which also represent your character’s personalities:

 

Holden: Clocks by Coldplay– it’s a song about wanting to go back in time and change the past and about being lonely.

Siddhartha: Drops of Jupiter by Train – a song about venturing out to find yourself.

Nora: Miss Independent by Kelly Clarkson – self explanatory

Meursault: Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen – about a man who gives up on life when he shoots a man.